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Old 03-03-2008, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There's A War On: A Soldier Killing A Puppy Is Now The Worst Thing That's Happened In Iraq
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The horror of war; it's sounds, smells and images skew your sense of right and wrong. Often your sense of integrity is all you have left when you leave. Most fight to retain it, under impossible circumstances. It's a shame he just threw his away.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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None of the guys I ever served with would pull any of that sick shit against the animals, we were well above that, I don't know what is wrong with those idiots.

Now, killing Islamic Fundamentalists on the other hand is STRONGLY encouraged!
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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In every race and religion theres fucktards. They slip thru the cracks and make it to adulthood because:
A- its illegal to beat or kill yr kids
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B- weakminded people are scared to stop them from doing sick shit and straighten them out.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Cant watch the video makes me sad thinking about it. Now if he was throwing a person off the cliff I'd have to watch, but not a pup.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm not EVEN going to watch that.....
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm not going to watch the video, but I will say this. The reason that something like this would upset so many people is he killed an innocent without cause. In the heat of battle civillians get killed by accident, and that can be excused as the cost of war. Killing a puppy for no cause cuts to the core of our being. People get outraged over mean, or cruel acts, and that is what this sounds like. Horrible things happen in war, but you have to retain your humanity.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I wasn't gonna watch this.... then my boss just came in talkin about it. So I decided to go check, and thankfully its not there anymore


edit: I just searched and found it; the article is there, but the video is not
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i searched and found the video in another place. I have 2 responses to this ad/video

1. Most of us have NO idea what its like to be over in that world of war for months and even years. We can't even imagine how bad our minds would be fucked up seeing killing every minute of the day. I think it would be detrimental to all of our psychological aspects of life and effect our humanity.

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this soldier needs the everliving sh!t beat out of him or the humanity beat back into him. what a bichass.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The thing people forget is that the soldier is a human being. The military, or any other job, does not magically rule out the law of probability, it does not cure anyone's mental illnesses. I'm surprised that people get so uppity when a soldier does something, as if wearing any uniform somehow magically takes away the possibility that the person can be an asshole.

Just like most, or all, of the people you know wouldn't kill a puppy, no one I know would do that, either. But, just like there are people in the civilian world that would kill an innocent puppy, there are service members that will as well.

I'm still trying to find the article, but you must remember that part of our pre-deployment training is to learn about the animals in the area. We're told to stay away from the animals, and kill them if they're unavoidable (chasing you, etc.) because most of them are infected with rabies.


EDIT: When I did a search for "puppy," I didn't find any information on it, nor the video. Interestingly, right underneath that benign link was this link: Moscow Plagued by Packs of Wild Dogs. Here's a quote:
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Andrei Akinin, one of the millions of Moscovites who take the underground train to work, told ABC News, "I work in the very center of the city. There is a pack of dogs at my metro station and I'd passed by them every day, but one day I was late for work and was running. The whole pack attacked me. My clothes were torn, I was bitten and had to have nine painful injections for rabies."
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During Soviet days, stray dogs were simply destroyed with no mercy. In the new post-communist Russia, citizens have more of a say, and because the multitude of pet lovers now voice their objection to elimination, the problem of roaming dogs has become much more complex for Moscow authorities.
So, because of animal lovers in the area, "last year there were about 20,000 cases of humans attacked by stray dogs; 8,000 of them serious enough to involve the police or requiring hospitalization."

If you scroll down more on the "puppy" search, you'll find: MORE THAN 100 ABUSED PETS FOUND IN N.J. MANSION

Like I mentioned about the rabies, maybe they were ordered to destroy the animals in the area for a similar reason.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I havent watched that movie, and wont.

If there is truly a puppy being killed on that video, I ask the admins of this site to please remove the link. It serves no purpose whatsoever.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:17 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I havent watched that movie, and wont.

If there is truly a puppy being killed on that video, I ask the admins of this site to please remove the link. It serves no purpose whatsoever.
Just for the record, I did not watch it either, that kinda shit really gets me worked up, so I avoid it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I edited my post a few times to show why it shouldn't be treated with this "WTF IS WRONG WITH THE MILITARY" air to it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:22 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The thing people forget is that the soldier is a human being. The military, or any other job, does not magically rule out the law of probability, it does not cure anyone's mental illnesses. I'm surprised that people get so uppity when a soldier does something, as if wearing any uniform somehow magically takes away the possibility that the person can be an asshole.

Just like most, or all, of the people you know wouldn't kill a puppy, no one I know would do that, either. But, just like there are people in the civilian world that would kill an innocent puppy, there are service members that will as well.

I'm still trying to find the article, but you must remember that part of our pre-deployment training is to learn about the animals in the area. We're told to stay away from the animals, and kill them if they're unavoidable (chasing you, etc.) because most of them are infected with rabies.


EDIT: When I did a search for "puppy," I didn't find any information on it, nor the video. Interestingly, right underneath that benign link was this link: Moscow Plagued by Packs of Wild Dogs. Here's a quote:

The article goes on to say:

So, because of animal lovers in the area, "last year there were about 20,000 cases of humans attacked by stray dogs; 8,000 of them serious enough to involve the police or requiring hospitalization."

If you scroll down more on the "puppy" search, you'll find: MORE THAN 100 ABUSED PETS FOUND IN N.J. MANSION

Like I mentioned about the rabies, maybe they were ordered to destroy the animals in the area for a similar reason.
Of course if you wana dissect it enough you can come up with scenarios like that. I dont think anyone was bashing the military, just bashing people with blood lust and a tendency to act cruely to those without the power to defend themselves. A commonsense reaction to a video like that in my opinion.
What would you have done if somebody next to you said "hey man watch me shoot this fuckin towel heads puppy" and shot it? Would you have said, "now jimbo, i dont support what you just did but i realize you must be under extreme stress right now which couldve caused you to react that way so its ok." ? I hope not.
What about the husband who strangles his wife because his job is stressful?
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What an asshole. I hope someone throws him off a cliff.
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Of course if you wana dissect it enough you can come up with scenarios like that.
Well, like I said, I do know we're told not to interact with the animals for rabies reasons.

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What would you have done if somebody next to you said "hey man watch me shoot this fuckin towel heads puppy" and shot it? Would you have said, "now jimbo, i dont support what you just did but i realize you must be under extreme stress right now which couldve caused you to react that way so its ok." ? I hope not.
lol, no, and I wasn't suggesting that it was for mental stress reasons that he was doing it.

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What about the husband who strangles his wife because his job is stressful?
Since I didn't talk about the stressors, I won't field this question
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