I'm thinking of modifying my cycle - OPINIONS??

CalKid · 03-14-2002, 12:18 PM

Here's what I'm doing right now:

Weeks 1-2: 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 1-8: 375mg Test Ethanate E4D
Weeks 1-8: 300mg EQ E4D
Weeks 9-10: 150mg Test Prop EOD

Arimidex at .75mg/Day

I started the cycle on Feb 25, 2002, so I'm about 2 1/2 weeks into the cycle. It's my 3rd cycle or so, and this is a bulking cycle.

BEFORE stats: 220lbs at approx 10% bf
CURRENT stats: 232lbs at approx 10% bf

HERE'S MY QUESTION: I'm considering extending the EQ to week 14 (an additional 6 weeks), extending the prop, and throwing in some anavar and winny near the end. (Obviously to shift gears and do some cutting for the summer).

I'm not sure this is a good idea because of HPTA suppression, and I'm also not sure how best to structure it. Should I hit some H C G with the test prop during weeks 9 and 10, then hit clomid for 3 weeks, then go into a short cutting cycle? Or should I just extend what I have with some H C G in between the bulking and cutting? Or is this long a cycle just a bad idea??

What do you guys think?

[This message was edited by CalKid on 03-14-2002 at 04:29 PM.]

CalKid · 03-14-2002, 02:28 PM

BUMP

Ulter? Mr. Nobody? Anybody?

archive_Ulter · 03-14-2002, 06:49 PM

Use some H C G and go right into cutting like you're talking about. You have a good plan there but remember you are going to have to run the post cycle "repair and restore" of your HPTA for twice as long to get it up to normal again.

archive_Mr. Nobody · 03-14-2002, 08:00 PM

Like ulter says, use H C G every 3 weeks of your cycle and double the recovery cycle's duration

Disclaimer:
Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advise.

CalKid · 03-14-2002, 08:43 PM

Ulter, does that mean Clomid for 6 weeks post cycle? Isn't that overkill?

Mr. Nobody, when you say H C G every 3 weeks, how exactly is that administered? 1000iu for 3 days every 3 weeks? Or maybe 2500iu just once every 3 weeks?

In terms of post-cycle therapy, Mr. Nobody, yours is a bit long anyway. Do you really think I should double the length of something like that if I just extend the cutting portion of this cycle 6 to 8 weeks?

Thanks for all the help guys!

archive_Ulter · 03-15-2002, 05:31 AM

YES you will be using clomid, and hopefully arimidex, for at least 6 weeks so stock up.

archive_Mr. Nobody · 03-15-2002, 06:12 AM

I would do H C G on cycles longer than 8 weeks as described below..

week 1,2 nothing
week 3: 1000iu ed
week 4,5 nothing
week 6: 1000iu ed
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Disclaimer:
Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner.
The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advise.

CalKid · 03-15-2002, 01:05 PM

Thanks for the help everyone.

How's something like this look:

Weeks 1-2: 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 1-8: 375mg Test Ethanate E4D
Weeks 1-10: 300mg EQ E4D
Weeks 8-12: 50mg Zambons ED
Weeks 9-12: 100mg Test Prop EOD
Weeks 13-16: Clomid

Arimdex at .75mg from Weeks 1-20
*** every 3 weeks or so (like Mr. Nobody suggested).

Of course, the usual post-cycle therapy at the end as well.

Weeks 1 through 8 will focus on bulking. The rest of the cycle will focus on staying "lean," but not necessarily "cutting" which might result in a loss of too much mass. (As I've heard from people who jump into cutting from bulking too quickly).

I think this plan sounds pretty solid. Any last thoughts?

Thanks again...

03-14-2002, 12:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
CalKid Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 5506	I'm thinking of modifying my cycle - OPINIONS?? Here's what I'm doing right now: Weeks 1-2: 100mg Test Prop EOD Weeks 1-8: 375mg Test Ethanate E4D Weeks 1-8: 300mg EQ E4D Weeks 9-10: 150mg Test Prop EOD Arimidex at .75mg/Day I started the cycle on Feb 25, 2002, so I'm about 2 1/2 weeks into the cycle. It's my 3rd cycle or so, and this is a bulking cycle. BEFORE stats: 220lbs at approx 10% bf CURRENT stats: 232lbs at approx 10% bf HERE'S MY QUESTION: I'm considering extending the EQ to week 14 (an additional 6 weeks), extending the prop, and throwing in some anavar and winny near the end. (Obviously to shift gears and do some cutting for the summer). I'm not sure this is a good idea because of HPTA suppression, and I'm also not sure how best to structure it. Should I hit some H C G with the test prop during weeks 9 and 10, then hit clomid for 3 weeks, then go into a short cutting cycle? Or should I just extend what I have with some H C G in between the bulking and cutting? Or is this long a cycle just a bad idea?? What do you guys think? [This message was edited by CalKid on 03-14-2002 at 04:29 PM.]

03-14-2002, 06:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
archive_Ulter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 15,388 Rep Power: 21906	Use some H C G and go right into cutting like you're talking about. You have a good plan there but remember you are going to have to run the post cycle "repair and restore" of your HPTA for twice as long to get it up to normal again. __________________

03-15-2002, 05:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
archive_Ulter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 15,388 Rep Power: 21906	YES you will be using clomid, and hopefully arimidex, for at least 6 weeks so stock up. __________________

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03-14-2002, 02:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
CalKid Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 5506	BUMP Ulter? Mr. Nobody? Anybody?

03-14-2002, 08:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
archive_Mr. Nobody Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 11939	Like ulter says, use H C G every 3 weeks of your cycle and double the recovery cycle's duration Disclaimer: Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner. The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advise.

03-14-2002, 08:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
CalKid Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 5506	Ulter, does that mean Clomid for 6 weeks post cycle? Isn't that overkill? Mr. Nobody, when you say H C G every 3 weeks, how exactly is that administered? 1000iu for 3 days every 3 weeks? Or maybe 2500iu just once every 3 weeks? In terms of post-cycle therapy, Mr. Nobody, yours is a bit long anyway. Do you really think I should double the length of something like that if I just extend the cutting portion of this cycle 6 to 8 weeks? Thanks for all the help guys!

03-15-2002, 06:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
archive_Mr. Nobody Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 5,080 Rep Power: 11939	I would do H C G on cycles longer than 8 weeks as described below.. week 1,2 nothing week 3: 1000iu ed week 4,5 nothing week 6: 1000iu ed . . . . . Disclaimer: Mr. Nobody is presenting fictitious opinions and does in no way, shape or form encourage, use nor condone the use of any illegal substances or the use of legal substances in an illegal manner. The information discussed is strictly for entertainment purposes only and shall not take the place of qualified medical advise.

03-15-2002, 01:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
CalKid Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 5506	Thanks for the help everyone. How's something like this look: Weeks 1-2: 100mg Test Prop EOD Weeks 1-8: 375mg Test Ethanate E4D Weeks 1-10: 300mg EQ E4D Weeks 8-12: 50mg Zambons ED Weeks 9-12: 100mg Test Prop EOD Weeks 13-16: Clomid Arimdex at .75mg from Weeks 1-20 *** every 3 weeks or so (like Mr. Nobody suggested). Of course, the usual post-cycle therapy at the end as well. Weeks 1 through 8 will focus on bulking. The rest of the cycle will focus on staying "lean," but not necessarily "cutting" which might result in a loss of too much mass. (As I've heard from people who jump into cutting from bulking too quickly). I think this plan sounds pretty solid. Any last thoughts? Thanks again...