Endothil - CL ?????

[PGHRam]

Anyone know anything about this? I just got word of this today from a friend. I've never heard of it except for reading some things I found from yahoo.
Anyone ever use it?

Thanks.

[strawberryriddick]

Originally Posted by PGHRam

Anyone know anything about this? I just got word of this today from a friend. I've never heard of it except for reading some things I found from yahoo.
Anyone ever use it?

Thanks.

Funny you should post this. My Sergeant pointed me in this direction just yesterday. He said that he used it with a lot of success, and that it's so beneficial that even MS patients are prescribed it.

I went ahead and ordered it...I'm expecting it Mon or Tues. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Halfway]

Google Daniel Mowrey, then decide if you'd ever want to give him any of your money.

[strawberryriddick]

Originally Posted by Halfway

Google Daniel Mowrey, then decide if you'd ever want to give him any of your money.

All I found out was that he's a guy who wrote a book to lend scientific creedence to herbal medicine. Is that bad?

The FDA has a PDF about him, where one of their guys let him know that he can't claim to treat an illness (specifically diabetes) with non-drugs. Hell, if it works, it works. And if it's natural, even better. The FDA is pretty strange like that, but I guess if they let me say that I have an apple that cures cancer, they wouldn't get kickbacks from cancer medicines.


All that aside, I didn't see anything in conjunction with Endothil. If it worked for my Sergeant, and they're also administering it to patients with MS and seeing results, even if the guy was just a skeezy asshole, I don't see how that negates the effectiveness of the product.

[Halfway]

He's a lot more than that.. he's been behind pretty much every junk weight loss pill or skin cream advertised in fitness or womens magazines for the last 5 years, from stri-vectin to dynakor to zantrax.

Enthodil cl/r is indeed one of his products - the ms claim is correct for the medical product, but highly unlikely for his product, or it's ability to build muscle in adult weight trainers

He changes his many company names almost anually as the FTC and FDA (and congress) really don't seem to like him. Maybe it's because those cancer drug makers really have it out for him

[strawberryriddick]

Originally Posted by Halfway

He's a lot more than that.. he's been behind pretty much every junk weight loss pill or skin cream advertised in fitness or womens magazines for the last 5 years, from stri-vectin to dynakor to zantrax.

Enthodil cl/r is indeed one of his products

He changes his many company names almost anually as the FTC and FDA really don't seem to like him. Maybe it's because those cancer drug makers really have it out for him

Hmm...well, I'm just going by what my Sgt told me. It's not all that expensive, so I figure it can't do any harm giving it a try.

I think the FDA would hate me if I started talking about a bunch of alternatives to their drugs. If enough people care (and if they're being advertised in fitness/women's mags, enough people care), then enough people are leaving the prescription world to check out the holistic one...thus losing the FDA money.

Money's a big deal to greedy people. The way I see it, some dude in China 5,000 years ago didn't have an incentive to grind a root into a tea when he got really sick unless it worked, and he had no reason to pass on that knowledge unless it worked, and the next gen had no incentive to pass it on unless it worked, etc.. Even if they can't figure out the "why," they know that it works. It was the same with green tea until we learned about anti-oxidants. Plus, the other option is to take manmade meds, many of which get recalled 10 years later because they cause cancer. There are drugs that are used to fight cancer which, if incorrectly combined/ventilated, cause cancer themselves. Go figure.

	Green Tea Green tea is a plentiful source of anti-oxidents. One of these EGCG has been found to be the most effective at raising metabolic rate.

[Evidence]

Strawberry , Halfway did a great job explaining about that scumbag Daniel Mowrey. I wouldn't take a huge box that was sent to my house for free that was filled with hundreds of bottles of his products. I don't know why anyone would still consider what that being said , to stll try any of his products.

The exact same thing is going on with **. He makes the worst shit ever, and is so shady. Yet, there are always people who have access to it and becaue it's dirt cheap they say, hey what's so bad about him? When someone is a proven scumbag, just stay away from him. Then he'll go away. Asshole Mowry is still around becasue people are still buying his crap. Same with **.

[evilcow]

I tried endothil-cr 2-3 years ago when they were advertising it everywhere with their "Better than steroids?" slogan. I followed their exercise regime and ate at a caloric excess. I did see gains, but nothing spectacular that wouldn't be explained by the new workout and eating at an excess (I had been restricting calories before).
Got my money back after taking 29 of the 30 pills through gnc. Apparently they had like 90% return rate on endothil at that location.

Never heard of endothil-cl, so I don't know if there's any difference.

[GFH]

Supplement Facts:


Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving:
Calories 0
Total Carbohydrates 0g
Sugars 0g
Riboflavin 6.8mg 400%
Proprietary Blend 9mg
-Green Tomato SE
-Grape Seed SE
-Grean Tea SE
-Quercetin
-Rutin

Other Ingredients:
Cane sugar, tomato powder, mono-and diglycerides, salt stearic acid, natural flavors, FD&C red #40 lake, magnesium stearate, and silica.
Directions: On workout days, take 1 tablet 30 minutes before your workout. On non workout days, take 1 tablet in the morning. Chew the tablet slowly and savor the flavor for a long period of time before swallowing.








So for $50 + shipping, you are getting 6.8mg of Riboflavin (aka Vitamin B2 aka Vitamin G). Some fraction of 9mg of Rutin (a simple antioxident), Quercetin (another antioxident variation), and some fruit extracts. I think im gonna start bottling my piss and selling it for $30 a vial

[Evidence]

Originally Posted by GFH

Supplement Facts:


Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving:
Calories 0
Total Carbohydrates 0g
Sugars 0g
Riboflavin 6.8mg 400%
Proprietary Blend 9mg
-Green Tomato SE
-Grape Seed SE
-Grean Tea SE
-Quercetin
-Rutin

Other Ingredients:
Cane sugar, tomato powder, mono-and diglycerides, salt stearic acid, natural flavors, FD&C red #40 lake, magnesium stearate, and silica.
Directions: On workout days, take 1 tablet 30 minutes before your workout. On non workout days, take 1 tablet in the morning. Chew the tablet slowly and savor the flavor for a long period of time before swallowing.








So for $50 + shipping, you are getting 6.8mg of Riboflavin (aka Vitamin B2 aka Vitamin G). Some fraction of 9mg of Rutin (a simple antioxident), Quercetin (another antioxident variation), and some fruit extracts. I think im gonna start bottling my piss and selling it for $30 a vial

The funny part is GFH, your product would be much cleaner than some stuff that is out there right now. And you could make a nice profit and get a pat on the back for being a good businessman.