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Old 10-06-2008, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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thinking about making some Test prop, but most powder sources arent carrying it right now, and if they are its expensive as fuck. THeres a fina-brew sticky, but you rarely see threads on brewing synovex pellets.
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IMO not worth it, and from what I have read you never get all of the estro out.
Also fina is more of a melt filter and add oil, a bit more chemestry involved with syno
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I can help you out PM me.

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Ive converted it a few times.... Ran it with fina and got good results and no gyno.... But not sure exactly if it was prop or TNE or what..... I dont think anyone knows right now on what exacty to use and how long to leave it in to get rid of all of the estro....

Brundel...... if you know a secret.... Please post it up bro
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Its really no secret its just that everyone thinks that it is. There is so much bullshit out there in regards to the syno conversion its very hard to sift through it and find a viable process. I know for 100% how I do it I get Prop and little or no estradiol. I would be willing to say less than 1% if that much. The reason I said to PM me is, the more people know how to do it the more people will buy syno eventually this could cause there to be restrictions on its purchase. I suppose I can post some directions though if there are a few who need it.

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My buddy has done it back in the day without any issue, I just get worried at even less than 1% remaining.
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Ive been running it for about a year on and off. As have several others I know. No AI or SERM.

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once I get some more balls I may try..
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THE syno converson.
Start with 2 carts then once you have it down you can do more. Trust me on this.


Before you start you should put 1 gal of distilled water in the fridge. You should also take a container of some kind like a large cottage cheese container. Wash it and poke a pinhole in it so water

will drip slowly from it.

1. 2 carts syno pellets in a 500ml Bomex glass beaker.

2. Crush the pellets into a powder. ( doesnt have to be perfect, this is just to make it dissolve faster)

3. Add roughly 100ml -150ml methanol. (HEET) Yellow and blue bottle.

4. Cover top. Swirl around from time to time untill all residual pellet fragments are dissolved. This will not be clear there will be powder in the heet. You know its done because the larger fragments

are dissolved.

5. Fasten a coffee filter to another flask or coffee pot ( what I use sometimes) Fasten with clothespins or paper clips. Make sure you use something with a pour spout like a coffee pot or beaker.
Make sure you can easily unfasten the paperclips or whatever from the front pour spout area in order to drain the fluid.

6. Pour the dissolved solution through the coffee filter. This gets out the binders and fillers. There should be some white residue left in the filter. Filter times vary depending on filters. Use cup

filters not cone.

7. While filtering wash the 500ml Bomex beaker or the like. Again make sure it has a pour spout. Pyrex measuring cups work as well. DRY the beaker totally.

8. After removing the coffee filter and discarding it, pour the syno methanol solution into the clean 500ml beaker. Place the cottage cheese container on top fill with roughly 350ml-400ml distilled

water and put the whole contraption in the freezer. The water should be dripping slowly into the beaker. Make sure to keep an eye on it. Takes maybe 15 min.

9. Once the water reaches the 450ml or so mark remove it from the freezer and stop the drip. On the 2-3-4 batches youll have a lower level as youll use less methanol, like 350-400.

10. After cleaning the coffee pot or whatever you used previously, fasten another coffee filter to the rim. Be sure it can take 500ml+ and make sure the filter is on tight. This is where your PROP

is.

11. Slowly pour the solution into the filter. Big filters work better for me. Let it filter through you may need to kinda scrape the bottom of the beaker to get all the crystals out. You can use an

additional 100ml or so distilled water to rinse the beaker out and add to the filterate. DISTILLED WATER ONLY HERE.

12. Take the Filter after it has drained and there is a white mushy/chalky powder. Get a bowl and put a few paper towels in the bottom to absorb fluid. Put the coffee filter in the bowl, additional

fluid will begin to be absorbed into the paper towels. I like to set up a desk lamp with a bright light and put it over the bowl very close to the powder, NOT ON. LOL and Not in the bloody oven for

fuks sake. Unless you want to ruin everything. You will need to let everything dry 100% this is very important. After a few min replace the paper towels on bottom then remove them so everything can dry.
Youll need to use something to scrape the powder off the filter and chop it up a bit into a finer and finer powder untill its dry. If you let it sit alone it can take days to dry. If you use a lamp or

something you can do it in a few hours thus reducing the whole process time by several days. Literally.

Now repeat 3 more times. Everything the same except reduce the amount of methanol to only as much as is needed to dissolve the powder completly. This time around you should not see any

powder like the first time as we already removed the fillers. So once dissolved the solution should be almost clear. If you have pieces that wont dissolve you didnt let it dry and your a Weenie.
Youll be fine just keep on with it as planned and be sure to dry it better next round.

After the 4th recrystallization leave the filtrate in the filter still attached to the contraption you were using to drain with.
Undo the front and pour the fluid out. Rinse the crystals with 1 gallon Distilled water. I use a spray bottle to keep everything moving and to keep things off the sides. RINSE ALOT. You will have to Pour the water out of the beaker many times before your done, this is why i said to make sure you can easily remove the fixture.
NOW DRY

After you have dried it for the fourth time make sure its dry this time, Dont be a weenie. It will fuk everything up. Must be dry.

13. From here, weigh your powder to be sure what youve got. youll have from 2 carts between 2-3 grams probably depending on how anal you were. Remember we would rather have 2 grams of

PROP than 3.5 grams of Prop and Estradiol.

Hopefully you know how to make an injectable from a powder, if not that is another story.
Good luck. If I can help feel free to PM me.
If you think this wont work or think you should give some jackass your money for an estro solubulizer please do not PM me.

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Old 10-07-2008, 01:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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That was tiring, Ill reread it and make sure I didnt miss anything but Ive read it 5 times and looks ok. A bit broken but ok. I wrote it in notepad and it kinda got broken up upon copy/paste.
Hope this helps some people, it seems alot of people have issues with this conversion but its really simple as far as chem conversions go. I made this fairly detailed so it seems like alot.
Good luck.

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Old 10-07-2008, 02:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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That's well put together; thanks bro.
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THE syno converson.
Start with 2 carts then once you have it down you can do more. Trust me on this.


Before you start you should put 1 gal of distilled water in the fridge. You should also take a container of some kind like a large cottage cheese container. Wash it and poke a pinhole in it so water

will drip slowly from it.

1. 2 carts syno pellets in a 500ml Bomex glass beaker.

2. Crush the pellets into a powder. ( doesnt have to be perfect, this is just to make it dissolve faster)

3. Add roughly 100ml -150ml methanol. (HEET) Yellow and blue bottle.

4. Cover top. Swirl around from time to time untill all residual pellet fragments are dissolved. This will not be clear there will be powder in the heet. You know its done because the larger fragments

are dissolved.

5. Fasten a coffee filter to another flask or coffee pot ( what I use sometimes) Fasten with clothespins or paper clips. Make sure you use something with a pour spout like a coffee pot or beaker.
Make sure you can easily unfasten the paperclips or whatever from the front pour spout area in order to drain the fluid.

6. Pour the dissolved solution through the coffee filter. This gets out the binders and fillers. There should be some white residue left in the filter. Filter times vary depending on filters. Use cup

filters not cone.

7. While filtering wash the 500ml Bomex beaker or the like. Again make sure it has a pour spout. Pyrex measuring cups work as well. DRY the beaker totally.

8. After removing the coffee filter and discarding it, pour the syno methanol solution into the clean 500ml beaker. Place the cottage cheese container on top fill with roughly 350ml-400ml distilled

water and put the whole contraption in the freezer. The water should be dripping slowly into the beaker. Make sure to keep an eye on it. Takes maybe 15 min.

9. Once the water reaches the 450ml or so mark remove it from the freezer and stop the drip. On the 2-3-4 batches youll have a lower level as youll use less methanol, like 350-400.

10. After cleaning the coffee pot or whatever you used previously, fasten another coffee filter to the rim. Be sure it can take 500ml+ and make sure the filter is on tight. This is where your PROP

is.

11. Slowly pour the solution into the filter. Big filters work better for me. Let it filter through you may need to kinda scrape the bottom of the beaker to get all the crystals out. You can use an

additional 100ml or so distilled water to rinse the beaker out and add to the filterate. DISTILLED WATER ONLY HERE.

12. Take the Filter after it has drained and there is a white mushy/chalky powder. Get a bowl and put a few paper towels in the bottom to absorb fluid. Put the coffee filter in the bowl, additional

fluid will begin to be absorbed into the paper towels. I like to set up a desk lamp with a bright light and put it over the bowl very close to the powder, NOT ON. LOL and Not in the bloody oven for

fuks sake. Unless you want to ruin everything. You will need to let everything dry 100% this is very important. After a few min replace the paper towels on bottom then remove them so everything can dry.
Youll need to use something to scrape the powder off the filter and chop it up a bit into a finer and finer powder untill its dry. If you let it sit alone it can take days to dry. If you use a lamp or

something you can do it in a few hours thus reducing the whole process time by several days. Literally.

Now repeat 3 more times. Everything the same except reduce the amount of methanol to only as much as is needed to dissolve the powder completly. This time around you should not see any

powder like the first time as we already removed the fillers. So once dissolved the solution should be almost clear. If you have pieces that wont dissolve you didnt let it dry and your a Weenie.
Youll be fine just keep on with it as planned and be sure to dry it better next round.

After the 4th recrystallization leave the filtrate in the filter still attached to the contraption you were using to drain with.
Undo the front and pour the fluid out. Rinse the crystals with 1 gallon Distilled water. I use a spray bottle to keep everything moving and to keep things off the sides. RINSE ALOT. You will have to Pour the water out of the beaker many times before your done, this is why i said to make sure you can easily remove the fixture.
NOW DRY

After you have dried it for the fourth time make sure its dry this time, Dont be a weenie. It will fuk everything up. Must be dry.

13. From here, weigh your powder to be sure what youve got. youll have from 2 carts between 2-3 grams probably depending on how anal you were. Remember we would rather have 2 grams of

PROP than 3.5 grams of Prop and Estradiol.

Hopefully you know how to make an injectable from a powder, if not that is another story.
Good luck. If I can help feel free to PM me.
If you think this wont work or think you should give some jackass your money for an estro solubulizer please do not PM me.

BRUNDEL
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I have done it before, but like brundel just posted, its a lot of work and I am not a big fan of prop. So I doubt I bother with it anymore.

And all of that typing, still did not including one of the worst parts -- filtering.
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LOL yeah I use a hand vacuum pump and 250ml stericup filters. 10$ a filter and each one will easily do 250ml with no effort. A life saver.

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thats some serious work.
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Easy but tedious as fuck.
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Its kinda fun though. Knowing you made what your using is cool as well, kinda a sense of pride in your work thing. In addition you know EXACTLY whats in there and how much. Even if you get powder from a source you still dont really know whats in there, or if its been cut with something, or if it has heavy metals or toxins therein.
I know for a fact that 1gram is 1gram and it shows in the end product as well its the best prop I have ever run.

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