HCG....

miplank · 10-06-2008, 12:34 PM

Is it necessary for PCT?

Ulter · 10-06-2008, 01:23 PM

It depends on the cycle. It certainly helps any cycle recovery to some degree but your average Test only 10 week cycle is one you can get away without it. I would use it.

NWMUSCLE · 10-06-2008, 01:27 PM

I also recommend hcg as a necessary pct item, as many do not run short cycles anymore.

Cardinal Slin · 10-06-2008, 02:13 PM

I used HCG once more than 7 years ago.

The acne that crap caused me.... ewwwww....... I have never ever used it since!

NWMUSCLE · 10-06-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal Slin

I used HCG once more than 7 years ago.

The acne that crap caused me.... ewwwww....... I have never ever used it since!

Can you recall your dosing?
Sounds as if it may have been used incorrectly.

Cardinal Slin · 10-06-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NWMUSCLE

Can you recall your dosing?
Sounds as if it may have been used incorrectly.

Not really that I can remember but if I do recall it was probably at 500iu every third day.

After 3 shots I was done with that! I am quite prone to acne and know which subtances give me it and which don't. I also know the different kinds of acne I get from different substances.

Pimples, Spots, Cystic, puss filled etc.

Clomid hurts equally as bad on the acne but clomid = cystic

HCG = little pimples filled with puss

NWMUSCLE · 10-06-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal Slin

Not really that I can remember but if I do recall it was probably at 500iu every third day.

After 3 shots I was done with that! I am quite prone to acne and know which subtances give me it and which don't. I also know the different kinds of acne I get from different substances.

Pimples, Spots, Cystic, puss filled etc.

Clomid hurts equally as bad on the acne but clomid = cystic

HCG = little pimples filled with puss

Ouch! Funny how so many people respond so differently to these compounds.

I have never had any negative effects from HCG myself, and am thankful as I seem to really need the stuff.
Clomid does not fuck with me either?
Some AAS though if I do not dose frequently enough will kick my ass on the upper back and shoulder region.

Ulter · 10-06-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal Slin

Not really that I can remember but if I do recall it was probably at 500iu every third day.

After 3 shots I was done with that! I am quite prone to acne and know which subtances give me it and which don't. I also know the different kinds of acne I get from different substances.

Pimples, Spots, Cystic, puss filled etc.

Clomid hurts equally as bad on the acne but clomid = cystic

HCG = little pimples filled with puss

Like most men, your problem is all estrogens. I wouldn't ever suggest using HCG throughout the cycle like many do. It's much more likely to cause sides like acne when you do that. You're very sensitive so if you go back to using Clomid use it every 3-4 days

mr sinister · 10-06-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulter

Like most men, your problem is all estrogens. I wouldn't ever suggest using HCG throughout the cycle like many do. It's much more likely to cause sides like acne when you do that. You're very sensitive so if you go back to using Clomid use it every 3-4 days

i have 1 shot of 5000is every six weeks when running juice

Ulter · 10-06-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mr sinister

i have 1 shot of 5000is every six weeks when running juice

I use 1000iu/day for 5 days once every couple months

mr sinister · 10-06-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulter

I use 1000iu/day for 5 days once every couple months

i get my hcg in 1 5000iu vial,it can be a a little tricky separating it into shots ..as of next month though il be getting them in 1500 iu vial so il be a little better using them i think

Ulter · 10-06-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mr sinister

i get my hcg in 1 5000iu vial,it can be a a little tricky separating it into shots ..as of next month though il be getting them in 1500 iu vial so il be a little better using them i think

It's not that hard at all. Add 2.5cc of bacstatic water to the powder. Draw out .5cc each time. That's 1000iu

East Coast Lifter · 10-06-2008, 10:14 PM

I hate clomid so always, well when ever I do PCT use HCG,

Remember everyone forgets, HCG will give you gyno so use an AI

Ulter · 10-06-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by East Coast Lifter

I hate clomid so always, well when ever I do PCT use HCG,

Remember everyone forgets, HCG will give you gyno so use an AI

An AI will do nothing for the prevention of HCG gyno. It's very rare when used for such a short time.

buzz · 10-07-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulter

An AI will do nothing for the prevention of HCG gyno. It's very rare when used for such a short time.

So what would be the best thing to use in the event that someone develops gyno form HCG?

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Cardinal Slin Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 184 Rep Power: 9253	I used HCG once more than 7 years ago. The acne that crap caused me.... ewwwww....... I have never ever used it since! __________________ Rule #7: Most people who have taken massive amounts of steroids don't get sick, don't die, and don't go crazy. Rule #8: ... Never assume that you are like 'most people' until you prove it." Dan Duchaine