HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Needto

[The Other Meat]

Originally Posted by sassy69

Very weird operation over there. I think they wasted an amazing concentration of passion & dedication for the sport. What they haven't figured out yet is that the value of an online community is in the members, not the site.

Agreed.

But online communities aren't much like riding in the back of a landscaping truck with a leaf blower strapped to your back, so how can we expect BRR to make proper business decisions?

[Biter]

Originally Posted by sassy69

Very weird operation over there. I think they wasted an amazing concentration of passion & dedication for the sport. What they haven't figured out yet is that the value of an online community is in the members, not the site.

I agree with this assessment. I recently had a conversation with a real life friend who occasionally posts over there. Hopefully I've can convince him to come over, as he's a good guy.

I tried to explain to him the difference between the sites, and how valuable the advice is. I gave him a parable to work with.

Say you want to learn to swim well, even go so far as compete. You had two choices where to learn.

The first place is small, indoors, and has some very good professionals who work there. They understand competition and can guide the swimmers very well. Aesthetically, it's pleasing and the place is kept clean. The focus is on swimming, but a good amount of fun is had as well. It shows with the swimmers. The coaches are world class and you get the frequent appearance by Olympic level competitors.

The second place is outdoors. The swim coach is the fat teenage lifeguard who barely pays attention to what he is doing. He might achieve getting some of the kiddies to learn how to swim in the shallow end, but that's it. The pool is public, and overused. Crowded, water hasn't been changed in awhile and is too warm from crowding. No place to put your towel down poolside. Even if there was, it would probably get ripped off. There is a lot of socializing... but the quality of it is questionable. The people running the place are only concerned with getting bodies in the door. If you pay for swim lessons, good luck.

I explained it this way. This is the difference between these sites, with AF being the indoor, well kept pool and EF the crappy one.

[SaladFork]

[Sugashane]

Originally Posted by Biter

I agree with this assessment. I recently had a conversation with a real life friend who occasionally posts over there. Hopefully I've can convince him to come over, as he's a good guy.

I tried to explain to him the difference between the sites, and how valuable the advice is. I gave him a parable to work with.

Say you want to learn to swim well, even go so far as compete. You had two choices where to learn.

The first place is small, indoors, and has some very good professionals who work there. They understand competition and can guide the swimmers very well. Aesthetically, it's pleasing and the place is kept clean. The focus is on swimming, but a good amount of fun is had as well. It shows with the swimmers. The coaches are world class and you get the frequent appearance by Olympic level competitors.

The second place is outdoors. The swim coach is the fat teenage lifeguard who barely pays attention to what he is doing. He might achieve getting some of the kiddies to learn how to swim in the shallow end, but that's it. The pool is public, and overused. Crowded, water hasn't been changed in awhile and is too warm from crowding. No place to put your towel down poolside. Even if there was, it would probably get ripped off. There is a lot of socializing... but the quality of it is questionable. The people running the place are only concerned with getting bodies in the door. If you pay for swim lessons, good luck.

I explained it this way. This is the difference between these sites, with AF being the indoor, well kept pool and EF the crappy one.

Thats actually a great and accurate analagy.

[nzrodney]

This thread must be killing the credibility of the EF AAS Forum. Poor ol Needto. Hes really a nice fella.

[Blueta2]

Originally Posted by Ulter

In 2006 we had a thread on the Mod Board about having an EF meetup again with mods, me and some others. BRR and some others were suggesting NY. There were several ideas but eventually everyone decided to have the meetup at the Arnold in Columbus. BRR posted that he didn't like body building so he didn't want to go to the Arnold. I thought I misread it and asked him about it. He said he hates BBing and has no interest in going to the Arnold.
Sassy and I were just floored. WTF are you doing at Elite if you don't like body building? Like you said, it's all about taking money from people he feels are vunerable.

and thats why AF does not lack passion as where EF does.

[ChocolateThunder]

Originally Posted by SaladFork

[wags8]

Originally Posted by nzrodney

This thread must be killing the credibility of the EF AAS Forum. Poor ol Needto. Hes really a nice fella.

You don't know him like we do. He's a bully, a liar, and a punk...............................Biter- the pool analogy is excellent but you didn't mention the turds floating in the pool are NOT Baby Ruth candy bars that they actually charge you for.

[MR. BMJ]

Is that really a picture of him sleeping on a couch?

BMJ

[SaladFork]

Originally Posted by MR. BMJ

Is that really a picture of him sleeping on a couch?

BMJ

Yea, he likes cheetos~

[Kano]

ho guys

[Blueta2]

On Friday, this thread had 9000 views. Today over 11000

hmmmmm

[usapitbullz]

Originally Posted by miplank

Okay...Here is my take on things....

I'm not going to come in here and defend needto...or anyone for that matter. If he wants to come here and speak his peace than so be it.

Now, I just came from EF because I heard this was a great place for advice. My only complaint is that all the attention has been placed on this thread. The Steroid section of this board doesn't get 1/2 the action this thread is getting.

I guess what i'm trying to say is how about we put a little more effort on the other threads...

This thread is very relevant to the community and deserves the "attention" it has gathered. You have a person that blatantly gives bad information, hocks(sp) shitty products and puts himself out as a AAS Guru for $168.00 consultation fees. Now you tell me how this thread isn't worth any attention on a steroid thread.

EF doesn't care about the community. They care about making the $$$. Get to the new people while they are new to the game by selling worthless products, memberships, and consultations. Thats what EF is all about and the more people that know it, the better off our community will be in the future.

[MR. BMJ]

Holy Shit!!! Needto is even fatter than I thought



BMJ

[drrman]

Originally Posted by MR. BMJ

Holy Shit!!! Needto is even fatter than I thought



BMJ

LOL.............wouldn't you want to pay him to advise you on how to get big and buff!!!

dude is such a fucking joke...........

[TrenAman]

Originally Posted by drrman

LOL.............wouldn't you want to pay him to advise you on how to get big and buff!!!

dude is such a fucking joke...........

At least ROss worked out, we should have a poll, who is the bigger douche bag, ROss or N2