What do you consider as a high dosage of test? - Page 4

JoeD · 07-08-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulter

It would depend on the guy's reason to hit 365. And yes, depending on his age and prior use, and let's assume he started at 150 pounds for instance, he may need 200mg to get there. Did you read Meau's thread about not responding to Tren? He used 100mg/day of Tren and had NO results. And that was on homebrewed pellets so it can't be bad gear. He posted he doesn't respond to vicodin or alcohol either. CG cruises on 200mg, he's used 1000mg in the past. But to your point he did go from 75 to 120 on just the 200mg.

Nice post bmj

Yes I agree with you somewhat Ulter but if someone needs 200mg tren e/d just to reach a goal of 365 incline then they should REALLY consider the risk/rewards of using steroids. Same with the person who didn't respond to 100mg of tren.

Also i wanted to note: im not super experienced with steroids, i've done a good amount of reading on them, so I don't want to come off like im some guru. It's just my opinion if you need to take large amounts to hit goals that a large amount of people could do naturally or on lower doses, then i think there are things to consider.

HULK1550 · 07-08-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MR. BMJ

I think some people (nobody directly here) are really naive in believing that people do not lie..........

BMJ

that was a long post so im not going to quote the whole thing but its right on. Again, everyone will have different reactions to gear, diet and training. not to mention different goals.

Most people i know or have known get to a certain point and it just isnt worth it anymore. it is simply more of a sacrafice than they are willing to make to win.

whether its a guy pumping more and more food into him to where he feels sick all day, or he is wondering when all the sides are catching up to him and what his life will look like 10 years from now (or more if they are smart), or a woman wondering just how much deeper she is willing to haver her voice get for the next trophy in the line, to how much uncomfortable perception they are willing to deal with and what will make them happiest in their lives.

this point is different for everyone. As long as they are thinking soundly about what is best for them and what will make them happiest, thats all we can ask.

but you see plenty of people who have absolutely no regard whatsoever for their health today, or down the road and just want what is best for today and tomorrow.

TAZ · 07-09-2008, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HULK1550

Most people i know or have known get to a certain point and it just isnt worth it anymore. it is simply more of a sacrafice than they are willing to make to win.

whether its a guy pumping more and more food into him to where he feels sick all day, or he is wondering when all the sides are catching up to him and what his life will look like 10 years from now

I 100% agree with you. I have done high dosages... ate until I puked on a regular basis....etc..... now sitting at 42 after 2 years of repeated injuries... terrible hip pain I threw in the towel on keeping this up. For me I reached the point where the sacrifice is no longer worth it.

-TAZ

Mrpumped · 08-13-2008, 09:37 PM

I've been using 1g for a while now and haven't seen the need to go higher yet.

East Coast Lifter · 08-13-2008, 11:58 PM

It is obviously different for each person, there age, weight, how long they have been training, diet, goals, and what else they are taking,.

Also if depends upon what type of gear you are getting

Mexican
Human
UG

Basically I think you can double you dose of UG compared to Human.

I have done 1 gram of human and that was maybe over kill and I have done 2 grams of ug, and not such a big deal.

G-REX · 08-14-2008, 12:52 AM

Kind of depends for powerlifters, I know it probably works the same for the bodybuilding guys. Off season is usually lower dosages and clean-out, I usually stick to no more than 500mgs. of cyp. in the off season. Once the meet cycle starts it gets bumped at about 12-14 weeks to 750 mgs of cyp. This is also where alot of the others are added, eq., deca, tren at about 500-600mgs per week. At about 8 weeks another dosage increase and usually a change for me from cyp to sustanon, dosing is about a gram per week. Somewhere between 4-6 weeks out the test gets kicked up to 1200-1400 mgs., the one auxiliary drug, usually deca is at around 600-800 mgs., and I start my oral, usually anadrol at 100 mg per day. 2 Weeks after that, I bump the anadrol up to 150. Thats it until meet day. On meet day, I usually through in some metyltest so I'm real nice and aggressive under the bar.

Killer · 08-14-2008, 11:10 AM

Great post Hulk.

You really have to listen to your body and look at your genetics.

bigbow · 08-14-2008, 06:50 PM

I stopped going over 300/wk a few years ago. I'm happy with where I am at 250lbs and anything over 300 for me just makes me bloated and miserable.

View Poll Results: This is on concentration of test per week.
<100mg/week......mangina dosages	2	2.82%
100-200mg/wk.........women dosages	0	0%
200-300mg/wk.........old man dosages	0	0%
300-400mg/wk.........The "step-up" dosage	0	0%
400-500mg/wk.........the 2cc dosage	2	2.82%
500-600mg/wk.........cruiser dosage	3	4.23%
600-700mg/wk.........3cc dosage	2	2.82%
700-800mg/wk.........slightly larger 3cc dosage	3	4.23%
800-900mg/wk........The 4 cc dosage	1	1.41%
900-1000mg/wk.......oddball dosage	4	5.63%
1000-1200mg/wk......"oh my God i'm at a gram" dose"	23	32.39%
1200-1400mg/wk......5cc syringe status	8	11.27%
1400-1600mg/wk......1cc/day dosage	9	12.68%
1600-1800mg/wk.......don't know what to call this one	3	4.23%
1800-2000mg/wk......Almost to big boy status	1	1.41%
2000+mg/wk............Big boy status!!!!	10	14.08%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

08-13-2008, 09:37 PM	#79 (permalink)
Mrpumped Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 1,621 Rep Power: 26564	I've been using 1g for a while now and haven't seen the need to go higher yet. __________________ Discipline is key!

08-14-2008, 12:52 AM	#81 (permalink)
G-REX Gold Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 288 Rep Power: 75571	Kind of depends for powerlifters, I know it probably works the same for the bodybuilding guys. Off season is usually lower dosages and clean-out, I usually stick to no more than 500mgs. of cyp. in the off season. Once the meet cycle starts it gets bumped at about 12-14 weeks to 750 mgs of cyp. This is also where alot of the others are added, eq., deca, tren at about 500-600mgs per week. At about 8 weeks another dosage increase and usually a change for me from cyp to sustanon, dosing is about a gram per week. Somewhere between 4-6 weeks out the test gets kicked up to 1200-1400 mgs., the one auxiliary drug, usually deca is at around 600-800 mgs., and I start my oral, usually anadrol at 100 mg per day. 2 Weeks after that, I bump the anadrol up to 150. Thats it until meet day. On meet day, I usually through in some metyltest so I'm real nice and aggressive under the bar. __________________

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08-13-2008, 11:58 PM	#80 (permalink)
East Coast Lifter Boston, MA Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Concord, Ma Posts: 459 Rep Power: 26558	It is obviously different for each person, there age, weight, how long they have been training, diet, goals, and what else they are taking,. Also if depends upon what type of gear you are getting Mexican Human UG Basically I think you can double you dose of UG compared to Human. I have done 1 gram of human and that was maybe over kill and I have done 2 grams of ug, and not such a big deal.

08-14-2008, 11:10 AM	#82 (permalink)
Killer Fragile Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 3,186 Rep Power: 32124	Great post Hulk. You really have to listen to your body and look at your genetics.

08-14-2008, 06:50 PM	#83 (permalink)
bigbow AF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: san diego Posts: 14 Rep Power: 855	I stopped going over 300/wk a few years ago. I'm happy with where I am at 250lbs and anything over 300 for me just makes me bloated and miserable.