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After taking a couple of Organic Chem. classes this past year the process of turning Synovex, a common heifer implant into pure Testosterone Propionate at a price of roughly 20 grams for $200 intrigued me. So much so that I couldn’t resist. After going over a couple of websites and reading every thread I could find, I decided to play the at-home chemist and instead of making any others interested go to a million different threads to get all the info they need, I decided to document my process for all those interested. Enjoy!
First off, I used Dazed Complete Kit (Which I recommend) and I bought an entire box of Synovex (Which has 10 carts per box) so I bought the complete 10C Kit, but I only converted 5 carts and half the kit. (The 10C Kit is just 2 5C kits put together). __________________________________________________ ______________________ As you can see in the first picture, that is the entire contents of a 5C Kit plus an entire box of Synovex that I purchased. Total Cost $85 for the Synovex…and $60 for the Kit. ($120 for the 10C Kit). These are the additional items you will need to purchase. I would recommend 2 gallons of Distilled water, 2 cheap cloth painter’s HATS as you see in the picture (not masks), a bottle of HEET for every 5 carts of Synovex, and a couple of jars, and rubber bands/paper clips, and a funnel Okay, let’s get started: Step 1 You must take the synovex pellets out of the carts. Each does of 8 pellets contains 200mg Test. Prop. and 20mg Estradiol. A key works good for stripping them out quickly. Just run it down the open channels with the cart over a jar. This is a pic of the entire contents of 5 carts of Synovex. Step 2 You must now take the bottle of HEET, open it up and add all but 50ml to the Synovex pellets saving the 50ml for later use. You need to leave the solution for at least 1 hour, stirring it every 10-15 minutes or so. You also need to cover the solution so that the methanol doesn’t evaporate. This will separate the prop. and estradiol from the binders and fillers. A glass stirring rod is helpful for stirring and crushing the dissolving pellets. Make sure everything is dissolved. (Clear glass works better to see if the pellets are dissolved) Be careful with the HEET as it is toxic when ingested or inhaled at low doses such as 10-15ml having caused blindness in adults, and doses as low as 100mL have caused death. Step 3 The next step is to take scissor and get the top part of the hat free from the others. You can cut it out with scissors, but I found that if you cut up the back of the hat, break one of the threads stitching that part together that the entire circle top part will come off easily and then you can pull the broken threads off the piece. As you can see, there’s the top off in one piece, and I got bored and a little creative with the bill. Step 4 Now make a filter with 1 of the painters caps and a jar. You can put it over the top with a rubberband or do as I did and use paperclips to hold more of it inside. (Otherwise solution with your precious test. will sieve up the filter/hat and run outside and down your jar). You don’t want to lose any solution here!! You then pour the solution several times through the filter to get out all of the binders/fillers. You then take the left over 50ml of HEET and pour it through the filter cloth to make sure to wash out any left over Test. into your solution below to make sure it doesn’t get wasted. Step 5 Pour the little bottle of Estrogen Solubilizer from Dazed‘s kit into your solution. Let this sit for 1 hour exactly. The liquid should be/remain clear (meaning no particles) but it should be an opaque white color. Step 6 Now here is where I change things from the other methods. They tell you to pour 500mL of distilled water into your solution and let it set for 15 minutes until it looks filterable (clumpy). This will give you more of a powder to be finally filtered out while the better method is to make Test. Prop. crystals. See the Estrogen is now soluble in water and stays with it, while the prop. becomes a crystalline structure when the water is added. So to make the crystals I made a simple contraption which would allow the 500mL of water to drip in over a period of 45min to 1 hour. As shown in the picture, I took an Oatmeal top, cut out a small square, and put an 18g needle through a cottage cheese container and set that on top of the Oatmeal lid to hold it. I then filled it with 500mL of water and it produced a nice steady drip of water. You can also use pop bottles and just puncture a small hole. You can actually see the Test. Prop. crystallize as the water hits the solution. While the water was dripping, I also put my contraption in the fridge to increase the crystal yield and size as the cold helps with growth. Here is a view from the top of the lid with a hole cut out and the cottage cheese container with the pin in the bottom. Step 7 Now filter your clumpy looking liquid. The clumpy white stuff is your Test. Prop. so that is the important part. My recommendation is to take the Painters Cap, paperclip it to the edges of your jar making a concave filter in the middle. Notice there are many paper clips around the back, securing it while only 2 paper clips by the pour spout. This allows for support of my filter, and at the same time allows me to take off those two paper clips and pour out the clean solution below which is the estrogen/water/HEET mixture while still holding the filter to the back of the jar with my other hand. Note: Below is a pic of the solutions and my filter. This is a very important step!! You want to filter your original solution with the prop. solution several times to make sure you get all of the crystals, and then you want to filter your test. prop. crystals with at least a gallon to a gallon and a half of distilled water to wash away the estrogen!!! Since it is soluble in water you are now washing away the estrogen and HEET so you have pure Test. Prop powder/crystals. The more filtering the better. This pic. is of the Test. Prop. crystal yield after I have filtered it extensively. Step 8 THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP OF THE WHOLE PROCESS!!! The powder must be completely dry before you mix it with your oil. I recommend taking the powder, putting it in a baking pan as shown below and putting it in your oven and baking it at 170o F (75 C) for at least 3 hours while taking it out every 20 or 30 minutes to chop it up and break up any clumps. I found it was easiest to use a razor blade plus it was fun b/c I felt like I was cutting up crack or something. The bottom picture it what it should look like when it is COMPLETELY dry and cut up. Wet: Dry: On a Piece of Paper: (Make sure to scrape the filter (cap top) with the razor blade when the powder is dry to get all the crystals that have imbedded themselves into the cloth. There is a big part of the yield there) Step 9 After the powder is dry, pour it into the Amber colored bottle of Oil and shake for a minute or two to dissolve the powder. If it was completely dried, it should be well dispersed. Then take the cap off the bottle and put it in the microwave for 30 seconds of so and (put cap back on) and shake it up and that should completely clear the solution. Step 10 The final step is to attach the whatman filter to the included 18G needle, and insert it into one of the sterile vials. Then screw the 10CC Syringe to the whatman filter and remove the plunger from the back and pour 10cc of oil into the syringe, replace the plunger and filter into your sterile vial. It is important to continually nuke the amber vial of oil so that it is hot and you have to have a towel to hold it because it will make a huge difference in the filtering. By backloading the syringe it is easier to filter your prop and not lose any oil, because by removing the syringe every time the pressure in the bottle pushed the oil in the whatman out the top and wasted a good cc or 2 of oil throughout the process. But when backloading it, you will have to slightly remove the syringe from the whatman filter to pull the plunger out of the back so that the pressure isn’t too great or forcing oil out the back of the filter. (I hope that makes sense). Note: Stupid me forgot to take a picture of this process b/c I was doing most of this process at 2-5 in the morning when my roommates were sleeping so I wasn’t thinking that well at all times…lol. So I took one from another guide out there. And That’s All Folks!!! Your Final Product should look something as beautiful as this: I would like to thank all those who posted informational threads out there as they helped me to get through mine and to decide to try this fun little experiment and especially to Sean2413 of bodybuilding.com as he has a guide out there that helped me get through the original process and was the basis for this resource for AnabolicFitness. Here are some notes that you should know: **It is very important to be patient. In everything you do, be patient. Especially be patient when drying the final powder. VERY IMPORTANT **Use funnels or jars with pouring spouts so you don’t spill your solutions. **FILTER EXTENSIVELY **RINSE EXTENSIVELY –You want to get that estrogen out of there so you don’t get gynocomastia. It won’t be fun if you do. **Most important-make sure your powder is dry. It’ll save you a lot of headaches in the end. **I got a yield of 9.642 grams the first time, not too shabby and when added to the 90mL of oil that came with the kit, gave me a little over 100mg/ml concentration. You can go higher, just don’t use as much oil. **You can bake your new prop. in the oven if you feel the need but it should be okay otherwise. Hope this helped someone!! Take care and keep liftin hard… LD Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt. -Col. R. I. Rees [This message was edited by Ulter on 05-07-04 at 09:51 PM.]
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Excellent!!! This post is way better than the other guide i have used...the guy that wrote it knows what he is doing and it was a decent guide...but the written English language wasn't his forte! I use this method and so far have 80 grams of dry powder
PS...I can picture LuckyDog wearing a Lowe's painter's cap while converting his prop. LMAO! ![]() "I feel that an individual knows their body the best. If you KNOW one of my suggestions do not work for you, do not hesitate to drop that idea from your repetoire. Never blindly follow the herd." PA 2001
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I've been using this method (without the kit, but same ingredients) for 2 years now and it is the only way I will use test because it is so cheap and easy this way. I think the reason more people don't do it this way is because they are afraid of the experiment going awry. Hey, just leaves more for me & Lucky dog.
![]() "That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger" Curious [This message was edited by Caligula on 07-08-04 at 07:44 PM.]
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I could not find painter's hats where I live, but figured #4 coffee filters would work as well. They take a long time to filter, and can blow out though.
Another guide with pictures is on Dazed site Crushing the pellets first will speed up dissolving them. Beakers like those used in real chem labs are cheap. Two for about $8 from Edmund Scientific. And they are much easier to pour from than old peanut butter jars. A plastic soda pop bottle drilled out at the bottom with a #60 drill (0.043 inch) makes a steady way to drip the water in. You can adjust the tightness of the cap to regulate the drip rate. Set it on top of the beaker with a scrap of clear plastic or wood with a large hole in it. One more thing: keep your jars covered. The fumes seem to attract mosquitoes. I guess they're the males, looking for a way to improve their pump. [This message was edited by way2skinny on 05-16-04 at 12:39 AM.]
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> For those of us who dont live in the US what is Heet? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Methanol "That Which Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger" Curious
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CG, yeah heh heh...I do follow through on my promises...It's been a while by the way...hope everything is okay up there. I might have to make a trip up sometime and get in a lifting session with you guys...Anways, now I'm gonna experiment with some powder and see the quality of that and then let everyone know if the powder suppliers (or at least one) is legit or full of bullshit...hey, that rhymed...heh heh. Anyways, for those who care...another tip is to put a second 18G needle in the final bottle when sterilizing the Prop. to let air out of the bottle so the pressure doesn't build up within the sterile bottle and also if you can afford lab equipment it'd be good to use sterile filter paper when washing the test prop powder with a generator and some beakers to do a vacuum filtration for your product...plus some of your yield won't get stuck in the filter like it will within the painters cap...But anyways, if I think of anything else, I'll post it. Take care all...
LD Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt. -Col. R. I. Rees
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Curious George:
You are always welcome to train with us anytime LD. Just let me know the day and I will MAKE time.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> CG, I know you and Monster train together, and there are some members down in FL, including Ulter Bjaarki and IG. Dammit, i'm in Georgia and will be in NC in 2005. There are some potential training session dates that must become reality here! I am up for training with and eating with some of my brothers here on AF... I haven't met anyone from here in "real gym time" yet, and that might have to change!!! I'm outta here...time to train back/bis, and pick PQ up from the airport!!! "I feel that an individual knows their body the best. If you KNOW one of my suggestions do not work for you, do not hesitate to drop that idea from your repetoire. Never blindly follow the herd." PA 2001
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Pharm Animal:
Ulter is in FL, but IronGod, FitnessChick, Richard Gear, me, and many others are in Jersey. Never been accused before of living below the Mason-Dixon Line, don't know that I could ever bring myself to that. I'm too averse to golf courses and registered Republicans ..... LuckyDog: Really phenomenal instructions, bro. You should talk to Random House about publishing. Bjaarki
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ulter is in FL, but IronGod, FitnessChick, Richard Gear, me <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
for now "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." -Albert Einstein |
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="**-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bjaarki:
...of living below the Mason-Dixon Line, don't know that I could ever bring myself to that. I'm too averse to golf courses and registered Republicans .....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> B, What the fuck is the mason dixon line? Is that like circa 1865 lingo? I aint seen no mason or dixon 'lines' round here, y'all! ![]() I'm originally from WA, but this southern shit sure can grow on ya...especially if you've got a southern belle as hot as PQ I'm always up for a trip to Jersey, bro... as soon as I can get some free time, it's travel time! PS...we hate golf.
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I crush any and all pellets with my Braun Hand blender. It has a sealed cup like attachment you put the blender on at it's made into a powder in seconds. Or o can use one of those little cheap coffe bean machines for like $15
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