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[archive_LuckyDog]

Steelpreacher,

I was going to wait until early in the week to post my updates as we'll be finishing testing tomorrow and Monday but a quick update just for you is in order.

Basically camp has started and I am completely cut off to the entire world now for the next two and a half weeks at football runs from 7a.m. until the last meeting/films of the night, which usually end about roughly 9:30 at night...7 days a week. Then we have bed check at 10 (Yes the coaches even come to our house to check) and lights out at 10:30, so all I can do is check my voicemail, make some calls at night and that's it. Yeah, the mental drain on you is incredible...By the end of camp your whole body aches all day long and you are completely drained, but it's the price we pay to play.

You're probably interested in some statistics, so here ya go. I have been maintaining weight as I can eat a ton at the Cafeteria b/c they have 3 meals a day for us and my bodyweight on average is abuot 244-225 lbs, but I have dropped from 229 when I started camp. My speed and agiolity/explosiveness has increased from last year and I definately feel more confident and comfortable out there one the field. And here's a little sneak peak...This Spring's Max Squat...595, Max Squat today...675 for a double. Could have gotten a triple at possibly higher but I went down too quick on my second rep, went way below parallel and used everything up trying to recover and get that heavy as hell weight back up on the rack where it belongs. I'll let you guys know full details later this week...if I can remember what day of the week it is...as days tend to blur together and I have no concept of the outside world...lol Well everyone, take care and keep liftin.

LD

Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt.
-Col. R. I. Rees

[archive_LuckyDog]

Okay, geesh. I haven't gotten any more replies to my thread so I'm kinda dissapointed when I come home at night to check it but here's my post-cycle testing results just so everyone knows.

Pre-Cycle:
Important Stats (For Me):
Max Bench: 455
Max Squat: 595
Max Power Clean: 295
225 Rep Test: 21 Times
VJ: 25”
20 Yd. Pro Shuttle: 4.38 Sec.
40 Yd. Dash: 4.92 Sec.

Post-Cycle Strength Results:
Max Bench: 505 (+50lbs)
Max Squat: 675 for 2 (715 Single Rep) (+120 lbs)
Max Power Clean: 305 for 2
225 Rep Test: We didn't do this test (Only in Spring)
VJ: 26"...I'm a little dissapointed but I did have a severely sprained ankle which hampered me this summer. Plus my ankle was "tweaked" when I jumped for my test as well.
20 Yd. Pro Shuttle: 4.28 Sec.
40 Yd. Dash: 4.80 Sec.

As you guys can see, I did pretty decent in my gains from the past year and I definately have some room for improvement but that's an ever evolving process for me.

And my bodyweight has been weighing in pretty constantly at 225-227 lbs every day before each practice. I do love that we're in camp b/c we get 3 meals a say in the Cafeteria and I can eat like crazy and not gain weight (Actually still lose weight) b/c of the amount of calories we burn during practice. It does suck though that I lose on average between 4-8 lbs of weight from before practice to afterwards in waterweight. But I've been really hitting the fluids hard as I've seen some guys cramp up (Their whole bodies) and some have heat exhaustion and it's not a pretty sight. My morale has been decent this camp, I have felt broken down a few times but that's to be expected. Much better than last year and I have to say that all of my preparation has definately helped me to feel more confident out on the field.

Looking at my goals for this cycle I have realized that I have easily met 4 of my 5 goals as I am still not satisfied with Goal #1 of gaining speed but now that I know what I'm doing, I have a feeling that this next year will be great in terms of those types of gains. Overall, in reflection of my whole Odyssey this summer I have ABSOLUTELY NO REGRETS WHATSOEVER in anything that I did and I am chalking this up as one hell of a great learning experience. Yes, next time around I will make some minor changes but I would definately have to attribute alot of my improved confidence to my whole experience this summer. yes, I feel I physically matured as well with my natural grotwh but this has definately been an enlightening experience and I will no doubt be making the personal decision to do the intelligent use of AAS as another tool in my arsenal of pushing myself to be the best athlete that I can be. I am not going to lie though...It took a BUNCH of hard work in busting my ass this whole summer with our conditioning program and everything that it takes to make it to the next step. I do have to take a moment and say thank you to all of those who have helped me out and who have helped make this experience an astounding success for myself, (You know who you are) and also say thanks to my loved ones who knew about my decision and didn't bust my balls too much and cared for me as they should. (Although they will most likely never see this)

For everyone out there, I still have a thread that I'd like to write on the results of my 8 week post cycle blood test results but that will still be a few weeks and also possibly a training thread if I get the chance. Now I need to head to bed as I have another VERY long day tomorrow and there's a sickness going around the whole team and I am starting to get a sore throat and feel like shit. Damn those sick people who brought it in. Anyways, until next time onward and upward my fellow brothers...Keep lifting hard.


LD

Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt.
-Col. R. I. Rees

[South of the border]

You gains are very impressive.

Felicidades!

Good luck for the rest of your camp and for your upcoming season!

[CanonOfMan]

I don't have experience squatting 700+ pounds, hell most 150 pounders probably don't, but it seems like you have the strength to increase your vertical beyond 26". There have been threads i've read talking about those with the best verticals being powerlifters. Chains, bands, etc. are beyond me, but it seems there is always more avenues for one such as yourself to explore to increase things like your speed and vert, though it's obvious experimentation doesn't have much time in your schedule.

Also, i've been wondering since I've read the first thread a little while back, does having a somewhat high, like 13%-15%, level of bodyfat increase your shelf life on the field? If your guestimation was correct, that left you with 25 - 30 pounds of fat to begin with, and it sounded to me like you didn't drop much by the end of your cycle. Is that accurate, about the same amount of bodyfat? Anyhow, it seems obvious getting down to 6ish - 8% would increase speed, agility, and your vert substantially. That's like dropping 5+% of your body weight, but not losing any strength. Is this reasonable to do in your position on the field?

Thanks for the comprehensive posts, they will help many of us in the future.

[Fonz]

If you really want to take your playing level to the next "level", run a Test suspension/Tren Suspension stack....but inject it all on Thursday, as the NCAA has to give you 1 full day of anticipation before a test. SO, if they haven't told you by Thursday, it won't happen by Monday.

I know a few people who do this, and this combined with GH and insulin, is how they maintain their size during the season.

The risks are obvious, but the rewards are pretty astronomical. 20lbs and greater strength(or no loss in strength), while maintaining leaness and speed/agility.

But I disgress, this is for the truly hardcore(These guys btw will do anything....I have trained with them and they are up for anything)

Fonz

Fonz

"Great minds talk about ideas, average minds talk about facts, and weak minds talk about people"

---- Fonz 6/2002

[dingleberry]

Damn nice post! One thing is sure, you are going to knock people's helmets off! You achieved your goal of more speed and think of this, F=M*A. You upped both your mass and accelleration dramatically so you should be hitting A LOT harder. Wish I was still playing ball.*tear

LD and Fonz there should be more guys in here like you but for post cycle id always add
dhea 150mg am and pm ( for cortisol management) for 6 weeks post
Bromocriptine 1.25ed(week 1) 1.25 ed (week 2) 2.5 ed (week 3-4) 1.25 ( week 5)
deprenly 5mg eod week 6 &7 only
insulin / creatine for 7 weeks 15 iu ed for 4 weeks followed by 10 iu 10 days
xanax 1.25- .625 needed for sleep
and of course your friendly relaxing buddy and sleep time friend g-boy 1 tablespoon every 4 hours
well you guys i wish you best of luck to you both
big dog CHAOS

[archive_LuckyDog]

Chaos and everyone else, thank you for the kind words...they seriously do mean a lot to me. Just so you know, Chaos I did look into all of the adjunct auxillaries that you mentioned but every single one of them is banned by the NCAA and I would be taking them right in the middle of camp and during the beginning of my season. Plus I have no clue how long those substances are detectable in your body by the CS/GC testing methods that the testing lab at UCLA uses. So they are out of the question (for me at least). But I figured that it was time for a little update for everyone who cares and has followed this thread. Camp ended for me this past Saturday night with our final "tune-up" scrimmage at our stadium which was a success. Monday classes started and we started our "season preparation" with scouting reports, film breakdowns/study, the whole deal.

It feels good to be out of camp as all the nagging little injuries that build up from the physicality of camp have lessened. Of course I'm busy running around all day long as I have several days where I start classes at 8, go straight through til 2, football 2-6:15, and then class from 6:30-9:30 at night. But it's my own doing for being a double major. We have started lifting again as our in-season lift 3 times a week. We are trying to keep our strength up this year as alot of gains made during the offseason tend to melt away as the season wears on. The morale is high as we are pumped for our season opener this Saturday, as it is the next step in our quest for a championship. In looking at my little calender I noticed that I am 5 weeks post-cycle now and I feel completely recovered. I have no problems whatsoever and my energy is high almost constantly. I will go ahead and take blood tests at 8 weeks post cycle and post them for everyone so that everyone can see the results. I hope that this thread has been a help to at least one person out there and as always, questions/comments are always welcome. Until next time that we talk...take care, keep lifitng hard, and onward and upward....

LD

Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt.
-Col. R. I. Rees

[archive_Killer]

Once again, good luck! Your hard work will most cetainly pay off. I also will say enjoy it, because you cannot wear the pads forever. Have fun!

[CanonOfMan]

Alright LD, I see you lurking from time to time. I know you must be busy as all hell since you are in season, but an update would be read with much enthusiam on my part, if not many others. I'm really interested to see, if you are getting any playing time, how your results on the field are, wish I knew which team to be watching to see you out there. Also wondering if you are already scheming together your next cycle.

[archive_LuckyDog]

Canon, actually I'm very glad you wrote a reply as I was getting discouraged that no one had anything more to say. Yeah I have been lurking, as a matter of a fact, AF is the only site I have the time to visit, but that's also by choice as well

And yes, actually "busy as hell" is an understatement if you want to know the truth. I just looked at the last time I put up an update and I didn't realize that it had been that long since I wrote an update...So here it is:

First off, I have been a little frustrated b/c even with everything that I have done, my weight has leveled off at about 222-223lbs so I lost 9-10 lbs from when I entered camp. I attribute part of that to the physicality of camp and the reason that since it has been over I have had to eat on my own and cook for myself, and it is damn hard to get adequate nutrition in at all times of the day with my regular schedule. But I have to also look at the fact that all summer I was building up, and then I got off of my cycle and threw myself into an extremely catabolic environment and really didn't get to lift much for 3 weeks but that's part of the game. Plus I have been stressed to the max lately b/c of schoolwork, football and some nagging injuries (mostly my knees/tendonitis/and a bruised jaw that keeps getting re-injured--> That one sucks when it hurts to open your mouth) that I have been getting during games.

Anyways, now that the bitching is out of the way, on to the good stuff. First off I really pumped b/c we've started out 2-0 (We have had a buy week already) and we are ranked in the TOP 20 in the nation by USA Today. There's a lot of talk on the town and we're one of the favorites for the Conference Championship. I'm getting a lot of playing time and individually I’m doing well also but I can't really be too specific by giving away too many details!! Just as an aside, with the whole drug testing thing with the NCAA, our coach announced yesterday that 14 players were randomly selected to be tested. It's funny for 2 reasons b/c 1) During camp he mentioned that our head athletic trainer was notified that our school's name was drawn to be visited within the first 3 weeks of the season, so there was the first warning, and 2) He told us on Monday after practice, and the testing was Wednesday morning at 6 a.m. so that’s over 24 hours notice. This is a change from last year, b/c we got tested during Week 7 of the season. I wasn’t chosen to be tested this year, but I was last year.

After looking at my calendar I just realized that this upcoming Saturday I will be going to get blood drawn one final time for my 8-week post-cycle blood test results and I will hopefully receive the results within a week or two and I will post them for everyone to compare one final time. I am still feeling good and strong but since we are in season now we only get to lift 2 times a week where we are trying to maintain if not get stronger by stressing main core lifts. A regular week looks like this in case anyone is interested: On Mondays we lift in the morning and then have a scouting report/meetings/ and practice. Tues. through Thursday we have practice every day along with meetings and film study (Wednesdays we lift again) and then on Friday we take our NCAA mandated “Day Off” but we still have meetings that night where we run over the schedule for the weekend and then get some burgers and PowerAde. Saturday is all game day preparations and then it’s show time. And Sunday afternoons we have meetings where we review the game, see how we “graded out” for the week and get awards and watch the film for a couple of hours. Then the whole cycle repeats itself, and when you throw in classes, treatment for nagging injuries, and homework, let alone trying to have a social life, that makes for a pretty busy schedule. But it’s all part of the game, and at this point of my life I wouldn’t change it for anything in the world…

And yes, Canon I have been scheming my next cycle already and I am drooling at the possibilities. I like to keep things simple but right now I am tossing around the idea of perhaps running a Test Prop./BTG Ox/Tren. cycle for 12 weeks next summer (As that’s the only time I can safely cycle) with aromasin but those might have to be staggered to play out detection times and the whole deal. Of course I’ll be going heavy on most of the supplements suggested to me in my thread, and I eagerly await wanting to use the whole Glycerol/Potassium Citrate/r-ala/G-plenish and other assortments this next time around. I will be experimenting beforehand, and yes I can use some of them now but I am a very meticulous person who likes to plan everything out when it comes to something such as this I do try to keep in mind that after this year, I still have two years of NCAA eligibility left so if Ulter and AF wants me to and still has any interest I may post another thread such as this one next summer when the time comes around!!??!

I have learned a lot though, and I have realized that when being an athlete and training in the offseason at such an intensity that I have to, there are things that I have to take into consideration that the common bodybuilder/athlete doesn’t. I am trying to put an increased focus onto such things as flexibility, as naturally I am a bulky meso/endomorph with tight muscles which can damper my athletic performance. Another thing I have to take into consideration is how my endurance will suffer when on, and what I can do to be able to train comfortably at a higher weight/body mass without having some of the problems I had this past summer b/c they were honestly pure hell at times. There’s so much more to this than many would imagine, but I guess that putting the effort to be the best I can, will only help me in the end! Well I hope I have given you an adequate update Canon and please feel free to make any more comments if you or any others wish…and I will keep everyone updated with how my season turns out. Thanks and take care. Onward and upward my brothers…

-LD-

God I love the dancing banana

Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt.
-Col. R. I. Rees

[archive_Ulter]

[South of the border]

You are doing great luckydog.

Some ideas to help overcome the physical pounding and emotional stress of a football season:

-Deep tissue massages
-Chiropractor: spine adjustments every two weeks
-Reflexology (pressure point hand and feet massage)


Keep us updated on your progress during the season.

[archive_Killer]

During my bouts of 8-12 hours of college football every week, when the SEC is playing or watching highlights, I constantly ask, "Riddle me this, riddle me that, which one is our Lucky Dog?"

Keep banging bro!

[Trevdog]

Its great to hear that you and the team are off to a great start. Man I would give my left nut to be living that life.

It seems to me that you've done a great job of balancing all the considerations you listed and making sure that this endeavor will improve your overall performance. I think the weight loss was essentially inevitable. Maybe you could do what I do sometimes when I can't cook. I use empty 20 oz. gatorade bottles and put 2 scoops of protein in them and carry them around. Add water and its an easy 50 grams of protein on the go. I have a granola bar with them.

Please keep us updated, I'm living vicariously through you.

[archive_LuckyDog]

Okay guys, believe it or not I'm back to make another update for everyone out there. I swear, sometimes you just get caught up in life and don't realize how fast it's going or what you need to value moreso than others, anyways I digress...

Well on to updates, Football has been going good as expected, it's been another decent season for us and between football, classes, and homework haven't had much time for anything else...And then throw in the fact that I just moved into a new house in the middle of my season and a semester and just got Road Runner hooked up and also had my grandfather who is very close and dear to me get diagnosed with colon cancer which had to be operated on immediately, not mentioning the kidney stones and the insulin he needed to start taking b/c his diabetes got soo bad that one day it got over 600 and he swelled up like the Michelin man and was hospitalized...shit he should have been in a coma. To top it all off, they removed 18 inches of his colon, still didn't get it all and now he has to do Chemo....this is a grandfather who 1) Was the reason I was fat as a kid b/c of all the buffets and 2) Put off a complete knee replacement last August just so he could watch all my games last season, and was doing the same this year for his other leg...Yeah, all this happened within a 3 week period so life has been hectic lately for me. But we still have been lifitng 2 times a week to maintain and my weight has still dropped a little but during the season from the catabolic state I'm in and the loss of muscle mass from all the running and no lifting...But as soon as the season is over I'm gonna be starting my lifting up hard core again after I give my body a week off to recover and just relax (If I can stay away that long)....But mandated by the NCAA we don't have to do anything until we come back from Christmas break but you don't become a champion by doing only what is required of you.

After being given the run around by my blood testing company I finally got my results and here they are side by side with both my pre and middle cycle results so you guys can see a comparison of all of them...



Anyways, a couple of things, I'm kinda pissed that 9 weeks after my cycle my test was so low and I can't pin it on one thing but it could have been the stress, lack of sleep and everything else happening to my body but I'm sure it will rise back up soon enough. My RDW distribution is high suggesting I might have a virus or something but my Doc can't figure out why it'd be like this after the cycle and my Neutrophils were low too, strange. So anyone who wants to comment, can...I still feel relatively strong and my body composition hasn't changed too much...but other than that,there's not much else to mention...But if anyone has any comments on the bloodwork feel free to speak up! Thanks, and sorry I don't have more to say but it's 1:00 in the morning right now and we leave for our game tomorrow and I've still got alot of work to do. Everyone take care, and keeping lifting hard.

LD

Education is a continuous process ending only when ambition comes to a halt.
-Col. R. I. Rees

[This message was edited by LuckyDog on 10-31-2003 at 12:30 AM.]

[This message was edited by Ulter on 10-31-2003 at 09:00 AM.]

[CanonOfMan]

...well worth the wait, thanks for the update LD. Above all else, I really dig these side by side charts you've been posting, if everybody would do that we'd all be making better decisions when it comes to playing this game. I think your numbers look awesome. Your test isn't low man, that about my normal number. It's lower than it was pre-cycle, yes, but that a solid number nonetheless and you are likely still building upwards. By the time season is over there will be some stress relief and likely those numbers will spike up nicely. One thing I noticed that is great as well, is that your RBC's have continually climbed and your cholesterol is coming down, both good signs, congratulations.