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ontariowrestler · 04-14-2001, 06:54 AM

Well alot of studies have been done on recovery post workout. Most of them concentrated on what was the best amount of simple carbs to take. This was tunnelvision. Most researchers looked at insulin's role in lowering blood sugar as the way to spike insulin, they did not look at it's other role of transporting amino acids into muscle cells. Yes, you can spike your insulin with high quality protein. How high is unknown, as the only foods tested were fish and beef and they are comparable to Honeysmacks, whole grain bread or popcorn. I would think something as highly processed and biologically available as whey protein would cause a much higher spike than fish.

One important step to stop muscle catabolism is getting amino acids to the muscles to build cellular catalysts. Their rate of depletion is directly related to the amount and duration of cellular work performed. If catalysts are depleted, replenishment takes precedence over everything, and breakdown of muscle tissue occurs to provide the necessary amino acids.

The other important step is having enough glycogen stores to prevent gluconeogenesis. I would expect though, that on a high protein, low carb diet, energy would be provided from unused proteins being deaminated. As long as you are not doing marathon workouts, and high impact cardio, you should be ok. If you have your protein shake after working out, before cardio, you are providing the amino acids necessary to quickly rebuild catalysts and the low impact cardio will burn fatty acids, leaving glycerol available to be taken up by the muscles as glycogen. This process will continue after cardio, as I said before, I think 2/3 of the energy used at rest is from fatty acids.

For information, milk products may be somewhat low on the glycemic index, but are high on the insulin index.

I eat whole grain bread. The important thing is to find one that uses the whole grain, 99% don't. Dempster's makes a good whole grain bread. Country Harvest claims to make oat bran bread, but the first ingredient listed is enriched white flour.

I am curious if anyone has tried calorie cycling to keep their BMR from dropping while dieting.

04-14-2001, 06:54 AM	#31 (permalink)
ontariowrestler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 144 Rep Power: 6107	Well alot of studies have been done on recovery post workout. Most of them concentrated on what was the best amount of simple carbs to take. This was tunnelvision. Most researchers looked at insulin's role in lowering blood sugar as the way to spike insulin, they did not look at it's other role of transporting amino acids into muscle cells. Yes, you can spike your insulin with high quality protein. How high is unknown, as the only foods tested were fish and beef and they are comparable to Honeysmacks, whole grain bread or popcorn. I would think something as highly processed and biologically available as whey protein would cause a much higher spike than fish. One important step to stop muscle catabolism is getting amino acids to the muscles to build cellular catalysts. Their rate of depletion is directly related to the amount and duration of cellular work performed. If catalysts are depleted, replenishment takes precedence over everything, and breakdown of muscle tissue occurs to provide the necessary amino acids. The other important step is having enough glycogen stores to prevent gluconeogenesis. I would expect though, that on a high protein, low carb diet, energy would be provided from unused proteins being deaminated. As long as you are not doing marathon workouts, and high impact cardio, you should be ok. If you have your protein shake after working out, before cardio, you are providing the amino acids necessary to quickly rebuild catalysts and the low impact cardio will burn fatty acids, leaving glycerol available to be taken up by the muscles as glycogen. This process will continue after cardio, as I said before, I think 2/3 of the energy used at rest is from fatty acids. For information, milk products may be somewhat low on the glycemic index, but are high on the insulin index. I eat whole grain bread. The important thing is to find one that uses the whole grain, 99% don't. Dempster's makes a good whole grain bread. Country Harvest claims to make oat bran bread, but the first ingredient listed is enriched white flour. I am curious if anyone has tried calorie cycling to keep their BMR from dropping while dieting.